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    Re: 1986 Phone Calls Due March 15th 10pm

    Just some hep for the new guys. I take all the players and remove their actuals and just rank on potentials. That makes the sheet easier to work with.
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    Re: 1986 Phone Calls Due March 15th 10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfpac255 View Post
    Just some hep for the new guys. I take all the players and remove their actuals and just rank on potentials. That makes the sheet easier to work with.
    For me, that wouldn't be that effective. College players rarely hit their potentials. I actually create a separate formula rating the difference between actuals and potentials and color code that list. It helps me pick out the talent that may actually hit close to potentials.
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    Re: 1986 Phone Calls Due March 15th 10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfpac255 View Post
    Just some hep for the new guys. I take all the players and remove their actuals and just rank on potentials. That makes the sheet easier to work with.
    Yeah, pretty dangerous. I’ll take a B level player that’s actually at his potentials his whole collegiate career over some superstar that wouldn’t be elite until 27 years old or so.

    Here’s my player assessment process:

    1) import to Excel
    2) change the attributes from the standard in-game red/blue. Instead I use Excel’s “conditional formatting” to “fill” cells bronze if in the 70s, silver if in the 80s, and yellow (stands out from bronze more than gold would) if in the 90s. For me it makes the best players stand out more than red/blue font color
    3) manually scroll down the spreadsheet a player at a time and “fill” cells of the names of the best players bronze/silver/yellow based on their perceived skill level. A given recruiting class may have anywhere from 1-6 “yellow” recruits. Elite RA SS that can also hit, hitters/pitchers with 90+ in two important attributes, etc. Silver is for good players that aren’t insanely unique or clearly above the rest. Bronze is for one trick ponies or else guys that are mediocre. RA specialists at less important positions, SY-only pitchers, SP-only hitters, guys balanced with lots of 70 ratings, etc.
    4) I use a new tab on Excel and copy-paste over just the yellow/silver/bronze rated recruits grouped by their color rating.
    5) Then I try to spread out my recruiting hours by grouping so that I’m not only bidding on great players (poor odds with 1/2-hour slots) but also have a respectable enough pursuit of good players.
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    Re: 1986 Phone Calls Due March 15th 10pm

    Huh... I guess picking guys whose names I like from the region I'm in is not the correct process... Interesting.

    You don't even wanna hear about my Round 2 and Round 3 strategy of put it off until I need to run results and then auto myself... Whoops..

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    Re: 1986 Phone Calls Due March 15th 10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by Miroku20X6 View Post
    Yeah, pretty dangerous. I’ll take a B level player that’s actually at his potentials his whole collegiate career over some superstar that wouldn’t be elite until 27 years old or so.

    Here’s my player assessment process:

    1) import to Excel
    2) change the attributes from the standard in-game red/blue. Instead I use Excel’s “conditional formatting” to “fill” cells bronze if in the 70s, silver if in the 80s, and yellow (stands out from bronze more than gold would) if in the 90s. For me it makes the best players stand out more than red/blue font color
    3) manually scroll down the spreadsheet a player at a time and “fill” cells of the names of the best players bronze/silver/yellow based on their perceived skill level. A given recruiting class may have anywhere from 1-6 “yellow” recruits. Elite RA SS that can also hit, hitters/pitchers with 90+ in two important attributes, etc. Silver is for good players that aren’t insanely unique or clearly above the rest. Bronze is for one trick ponies or else guys that are mediocre. RA specialists at less important positions, SY-only pitchers, SP-only hitters, guys balanced with lots of 70 ratings, etc.
    4) I use a new tab on Excel and copy-paste over just the yellow/silver/bronze rated recruits grouped by their color rating.
    5) Then I try to spread out my recruiting hours by grouping so that I’m not only bidding on great players (poor odds with 1/2-hour slots) but also have a respectable enough pursuit of good players.
    I go through and rate everyone on a 0-6 scale where 6 is a super-stud and 0 is do not want. There are usually 1-5 6's in a class, probably 5-10 5's and quite a few 4's and 3's. It's all relative, too. I bump up ratings on guys who have a skill or position I need and bump down guys who do not and who are out of region.

    More detailed general rating scale:
    6: Super-stud, worth spending a 6 on (then not getting, lol)
    5: can't-miss players
    4: Sure fire starters
    3: Role players that aren't stars, but can start and provide a necessary skill (like rangy infielders with no bat, or DI only types, etc). Can generally do more than one thing well.
    2: Bench types that have a useful skill that wouldn't be the end of the world if you had to start.
    1: Last resort
    0: JR Ewing All-stars: Do not recruit under any circumstances.
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    Re: 1986 Phone Calls Due March 15th 10pm

    Both of the guys you mentioned as 3's sound like my ideas of 5's so that might be a problem...

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    Re: 1986 Phone Calls Due March 15th 10pm

    I might need some extra time for a list , maybe Saturday morning
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    Re: 1986 Phone Calls Due March 15th 10pm

    I base my list on feel. I don't even use excel or the list that is made as I'm usually done before hand.



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    My approach is similar to Miroku's.
    Last edited by DetroitGloryDays; March 14, 2019 at 08:05 PM.

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    Re: 1986 Phone Calls Due March 15th 10pm

    As expected, seems to be 2 extreme parties. The ones that put way too much time and those that don't. With 24 teams, any strategy should have some benefits. Even if Marsupial is making a joke about 5's just being role players and undercutting how valuable 5's should be, I know there are owners that go for snipes with those hours. I personally don't like to waste my high end hours, but do tend to shoot for a snipe every once in a while. I'm quickly discovering how quickly talent dissipates between the rounds. Sometimes I'm happy with some of my new recruits from round 2, but it severely pales in comparison to the 2's and 3's from the first round. I tend to go in between like miroku. Unless they are 17, I factor in the actual and potential gap. I think that Detroit's comment about going for feel is a bit crazy, but to each his own. I'm still fairly new here and I try to take this super seriously, but owners like that and Alabama seem to show me up anyway (not a knock on time spent just attitude in general). I'm still waiting for my team to make the playoffs since taking over . And I don't want to come across as the kind of guy that quickly chirps "luck!" because with this many teams, it's almost impossible to be great at recruiting. Some strategies just work better than others in certain years. If I can crush UNC this year in recruiting, I'll be ecstatic. Even if he never gets his 6 and only goes for defense, he's been my main foe the last 2 years! Some of the owners, especially in my conference, are extremely good at this. Has anyone noticed how "we" dominate the other side?

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    Re: 1986 Phone Calls Due March 15th 10pm

    Bigtank, I take this league quite seriously, however my response was sarcastic as I was quoting the ideas of one of my favorite CSFBL owners who made CWS fun not through his play, but his color in the forums.

    The veteran owners should get a chuckle as we reminisce.

    I use excel and conditioning rules along with some equations and a lot of manual labor in hopes I land the right amount of hours as there are so many variables that effect recruiting with 23 other owners as well as a little luck.


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