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    Switch Hitter Splits

    What is the point of a switch hitter split? Does it affect anything and if so, how much?
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    Re: Switch Hitter Splits

    A negative split lowers makes a switch hitter that is better against rhp, and double bad against lhp. A positive split is the opposite. The old help page used to detail this well, not sure about the new one, haven't looked since it was updated. Basically, because of the prevalence of RHP, a positive split is generally much better than the negative split.
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    Re: Switch Hitter Splits

    Quote Originally Posted by 2XS View Post
    A negative split lowers makes a switch hitter that is better against rhp, and double bad against lhp. A positive split is the opposite. The old help page used to detail this well, not sure about the new one, haven't looked since it was updated. Basically, because of the prevalence of RHP, a positive split is generally much better than the negative split.
    This, I am quite confident can’t be correct, unless I am misunderstanding you. Switch hitters with positive splits, from everything I’ve seen, do a little worse against LHP, but do far better than they would if they were a left handed batter.
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    CF 81, 86, 87, 89, 90, 98, 99, 00, 01
    HOF 42, 44, 45, 49, 51, 53, 54, 59, 60, 64
    EBB 70, 72, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 80, 81, 90, 93, 97
    MLBTB 70, 77, 79, 82, 84
    CBB 17, 18, 20, 21, 22, 23, 28, 31, 32
    FOB 46, 53, 54, 55, 58, 64, 65, 66, 67, 68
    NAL 39
    CarL 86, 96, 99, 01
    RSN 54, 56, 64
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    PGML 07, 09, 15
    RTTB 79
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    Re: Switch Hitter Splits

    Quote Originally Posted by 2XS View Post
    A negative split lowers makes a switch hitter that is better against rhp, and double bad against lhp. A positive split is the opposite. The old help page used to detail this well, not sure about the new one, haven't looked since it was updated. Basically, because of the prevalence of RHP, a positive split is generally much better than the negative split.

    There use to be a bug for Switch hitters, when the sim engine was updated I often have wondered if that bug was fixed or not.

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    Re: Switch Hitter Splits

    Good question

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    Re: Switch Hitter Splits

    I always thought the split was simply flipped when the switch hitter bats from the left side. So a switch hitter with a split of -4 changes to +4 when batting from the left side. Or am I missing something?

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    Re: Switch Hitter Splits

    RHP vs LHB: -3 and +3 becomes +3 and +3 (reverse RL for pitcher who is facing a lefty), so +3 + +3 = +6 (bonus)
    LHP vs RHB: +3 and -3 becomes +3 and +3 (reverse RL for batter who is facing a lefty), so +3 + +3 = +6 (bonus)

    So here is the formula from the help page. Switch hitters are always considered as batting from the opposite side, so for the RHB substitute the SW +/- and the same for the LHB.

    The number doesn't get switched no matter what side they are hitting from. Unless they changed that recently. This is why there used to be a big request for more + split Switch hitters.

    So a +3 Switch hitter is getting the +6 bonus versus RHP, but 0 bonus against LHP, and a -3 Switch hitter is getting 0 bonus vs RHP and a +6 bonus vs LHP.

    Thus it is more advantageous to have a + split as a Switch hitter than a - split. This is the way it has always worked. Now if they made a change recently, I might be wrong, but they never updated it anywhere that I can find.
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    Re: Switch Hitter Splits

    2XS explained it as about as good as you can.

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