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    Re: Improvements to Draft Depth - Discussion Thread

    Just had my first experience with the new and improved draft in TCB, and... well... it's easily the worst draft of the last 4 years in that league according to my calculations.

    Recent total cumulative draft scores in TCB, according to my formula:

    1996 - 20.746
    1997 - 18.929
    1998 - 18.015
    1999 - 17.605 (this year, with the "deeper" draft)

    After about pick #15, this year's draft was worse than the 1996 and 1997 drafts, and after pick #22, it was worse than the 1998 draft as well (which was a very weak draft itself).

    Put another way, the first round of the draft was on par with previous drafts (roughly), but then after that, the second and third rounds were much worse. Only the top 25-30 players in this draft are worth rostering at all. I have a late second round pick and I'm using it on a minimum salary pitcher (again) because there just are no players remaining who have even a remote chance of being valuable to my team.

    All this said, I understand that this was not meant to be a dramatic change and that we can still expect a mix of weak and strong drafts. I hope that this was an exception to the rule and that most of the time the drafts will indeed be deeper and bring at least some amount of value to those second round picks.

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    Re: Improvements to Draft Depth - Discussion Thread

    seems like drafts have been getting worse (given small sample)

    https://www.csfbl.com/league/view.asp?leagueid=2286
    https://www.csfbl.com/league/view.asp?leagueid=2256

    first two league drafts I have seen since the change and they have been pretty awful

  3. #43

    Re: Improvements to Draft Depth - Discussion Thread

    Agreed

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    Well, I picked #10, it did seem about the same overall. My biggest need was pitching, and it was probably the worst pitching draft I had seen in a very, very long time.

    But, with a 31 year old 2B my 2nd biggest need was an heir apparent, and there was 3 2B and 2 SS who met my requirement RA-wise, which is about twice what I usually if not more. 3 in fact were still around at #10.

    I cant say I took a real deep look at other positions, since I didn't have particularly deep needs elsewhere (I have an aging RF/DH, but corner OF has always been fairly easy to fill when I am in need. So, no real standouts at C/1B/3B/OF (beyond the #1 prospect CF) but that doesn't mean they are particularly weak (they could have quite a few of those improved late 1st/2nd picks)

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    Re: Improvements to Draft Depth - Discussion Thread

    Tilted Tables draft is not looking any different. I've got pick 15 and I only found a couple pitchers that were marginal considering the draft spot. I think one thing I've realized over the years is the drafts are devoid of much young talent. The good players seem to be mostly 20+, which go in the first ten picks or so. After that I'd like to see 20+ year olds with nice potentials, but lower actuals, where I might take a chance on seeing if they might develop; or teenagers where I have to wait for them to develop. Unfortunately, I rarely see the latter.
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    Re: Improvements to Draft Depth - Discussion Thread

    I've seen about 4-5 drafts, mostly with full scouting. I've noticed significant increase in quality in the 2nd round, lasting in the early third sometimes. Have noticed some better choices at the high end, specifically in RA in the middle infield.
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    Re: Improvements to Draft Depth - Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimm View Post
    Tilted Tables draft is not looking any different. I've got pick 15 and I only found a couple pitchers that were marginal considering the draft spot. I think one thing I've realized over the years is the drafts are devoid of much young talent. The good players seem to be mostly 20+, which go in the first ten picks or so. After that I'd like to see 20+ year olds with nice potentials, but lower actuals, where I might take a chance on seeing if they might develop; or teenagers where I have to wait for them to develop. Unfortunately, I rarely see the latter.
    Yeah TT was the one I was talking about-I did notice I overlooked one pitcher who would have fit well in the staff, that went next block. But still getting a middle infielder who can both hit and field probably is better in the long run (even if it was one picked specifically to be an heir apparent in 4-5 years, it is still nice to have that to not worry about year to year, my pitching staff cant be healed with one pick anyway-my fault for having the exact same rotation for about 5 years letting them get older and older)

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    Re: Improvements to Draft Depth - Discussion Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdbpimpin1 View Post
    I've seen about 4-5 drafts, mostly with full scouting. I've noticed significant increase in quality in the 2nd round, lasting in the early third sometimes. Have noticed some better choices at the high end, specifically in RA in the middle infield.
    Would be nice to have a decent 3rd rd pitcher for a change. I can only think of one 3rd rd pitcher ever that gave me any value, and that was one that had been cut from elsewhere and was a FA pickup. (most of the other 3rd rd pitchers that made the majors were 6.00-7.00 ERA relievers-that were essentially 10th or 11th in innings at the end of the season)

    I have had a few position players in the 3rd that were solid role players.

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    Re: Improvements to Draft Depth - Discussion Thread

    The TML draft has a dozen pitchers who look like solid, ready to throw at 24, rotation guys. I didnt see the high end talent most people expect at #1 but that a different topic
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    Re: Improvements to Draft Depth - Discussion Thread

    Remember there is always going to be a random factor to drafts, that wasn't removed. So some drafts will be better/worse then others. Also we didn't increase the high end talent, just increasing the chances of more depth type players who could be starters.

    We're taking baby steps with the adjustments and will continue to monitor them.

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