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    Djoos looks like a keeper on a third pair. Deslauriers might have the best shot on the team now that sprong is gone. Silf is maybe the only other competition.
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    The NHL may follow the NBA's lead and suspend the season in the coming days.
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    I have to keep this thread alive, so I'll take my classic game rewatches over here. I've seen two Flyers games the past week.

    First the 1997 finals vs Detroit. What an all-time great matchup that was! Detroit had Yzerman, Shanahan, Lidström, Larry Murphy, and all those Soviet greats like Fetisov, Larionov, Konstantinov, and Fedorov. Even their checking line with Maltby and Draper was memorable. And Philadelphia had the Legion of Doom in their prime, backed up by Brind'Amour, Desjardins, and Coffey. The Red Wings were just insanely deep and won in four games, and then the Flyers faded away.

    I had forgotten the timeline a bit, so it's nice to relive it in this compact format. This was just the year after Colorado won the Stanley Cup with Peter Forsberg as a key player. They had acquired Forsberg and other pieces in return for Eric Lindros, who had demanded a trade from Québec (which then moved to Colorado a few years later). It's one of the bad trades ever, but seeing Colorado and Philadelphia in back to back finals it's hard to imagine a world in which they had stayed on their drafting teams. As great as Forsberg was, he wasn't the #1 personality that a team could build around. There would be no Legion of Doom and Brind'Amour would have possibly been their #1 center? And how would the Sakic-Lindros dynamic work in Colorado? Would Sakic happily slide into a Brind'Amour second fiddle role, because Lindros certainly wouldn't have? The Conn Smythe winning Sakic would hardly have been as useful in a lesser role.

    The second Flyers game that I saw was the 1985 humiliation at the hands of Edmonton. Both teams were fairly young and the first four games were pretty even, but the Oilers ended up finishing off the series with an 8-3 win in game 5. I never really saw 80s Gretzky much, so it was fun to see him. He was mostly invisible, but then would set up an open teammate with a behind-the-back pass that nobody else on the ice would ever consider. And 24-year old Messier looked like 40-year old Messier. But the most spectacular moment of the game was when Iron Mike Keenan threw in some of his goons with less than five minutes to go and his team down five goals. The Oilers took exception and punches were thrown. These days players stop punching when one guy hits the ice, but these 6'5" Philadelphia thugs just saw it as a good chance to keep pounding. The poor linesmen really went in there trying to pry players apart, but with more fights than guys in stripes there wasn't much to do. Not the classiest way to go down, but probably the most Flyers way. These teams would face each other in the finals two years later, with mostly the same rosters, so I hope I get to see some of that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigge View Post
    I have to keep this thread alive, so I'll take my classic game rewatches over here. I've seen two Flyers games the past week.

    First the 1997 finals vs Detroit. What an all-time great matchup that was! Detroit had Yzerman, Shanahan, Lidström, Larry Murphy, and all those Soviet greats like Fetisov, Larionov, Konstantinov, and Fedorov. Even their checking line with Maltby and Draper was memorable. And Philadelphia had the Legion of Doom in their prime, backed up by Brind'Amour, Desjardins, and Coffey. The Red Wings were just insanely deep and won in four games, and then the Flyers faded away.

    I had forgotten the timeline a bit, so it's nice to relive it in this compact format. This was just the year after Colorado won the Stanley Cup with Peter Forsberg as a key player. They had acquired Forsberg and other pieces in return for Eric Lindros, who had demanded a trade from Québec (which then moved to Colorado a few years later). It's one of the bad trades ever, but seeing Colorado and Philadelphia in back to back finals it's hard to imagine a world in which they had stayed on their drafting teams. As great as Forsberg was, he wasn't the #1 personality that a team could build around. There would be no Legion of Doom and Brind'Amour would have possibly been their #1 center? And how would the Sakic-Lindros dynamic work in Colorado? Would Sakic happily slide into a Brind'Amour second fiddle role, because Lindros certainly wouldn't have? The Conn Smythe winning Sakic would hardly have been as useful in a lesser role.

    The second Flyers game that I saw was the 1985 humiliation at the hands of Edmonton. Both teams were fairly young and the first four games were pretty even, but the Oilers ended up finishing off the series with an 8-3 win in game 5. I never really saw 80s Gretzky much, so it was fun to see him. He was mostly invisible, but then would set up an open teammate with a behind-the-back pass that nobody else on the ice would ever consider. And 24-year old Messier looked like 40-year old Messier. But the most spectacular moment of the game was when Iron Mike Keenan threw in some of his goons with less than five minutes to go and his team down five goals. The Oilers took exception and punches were thrown. These days players stop punching when one guy hits the ice, but these 6'5" Philadelphia thugs just saw it as a good chance to keep pounding. The poor linesmen really went in there trying to pry players apart, but with more fights than guys in stripes there wasn't much to do. Not the classiest way to go down, but probably the most Flyers way. These teams would face each other in the finals two years later, with mostly the same rosters, so I hope I get to see some of that too.
    You picked literally the two worst Flyers Stanley Cup Final performances in their history. The much more compeptitive 1987 series featured a rookie sensation named Ron Hextall between the pipes for the Flyers rather than Pelle Lindbergh who tragically died of a car accident late in 1985. Based on who their goaltender was, wouldn't you have been rooting for the Flyers in 1985?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pigge
    Even their checking line with Maltby and Draper was memorable
    I like donald draper, but i pictured him in more of a getzlaf role
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    Quote Originally Posted by smartbenny24 View Post
    You picked literally the two worst Flyers Stanley Cup Final performances in their history. The much more compeptitive 1987 series featured a rookie sensation named Ron Hextall between the pipes for the Flyers rather than Pelle Lindbergh who tragically died of a car accident late in 1985. Based on who their goaltender was, wouldn't you have been rooting for the Flyers in 1985?
    I remember Hextall from the 90s and was surprised to see that he was part of the Lindros trade, since he later returned to the Flyers and was part of that 1997 team. He did not play in the game I watched though, which was a surprise. I do remember that they always blamed the lack of championships on weak goaltending, which seems harsh with Hextall being solid for a long time. It's like the Panthers these days. Everybody thought that Bobrovsky would finally get them a goalie that would allow them to win, and instead his numbers are down to a mediocre level because they don't know how to play defense.

    Pelle Lindbergh played for the hated team across town before he went to the NHL, so I would rather root against him. It would take a lot of success on the national team to overcome that barrier. I would have liked to see him play though but for some reason they had benched him for that final game, which may explain the eight goals allowed.

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    Pigge, is your team djurgardens?
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    2018: 6,226-5,522 (.530) ~ 7 WS
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    WBCVenezuela(1925-1932,1937-)1925, 1928, 1930, 1937, 1949, 1955
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke_T View Post
    Pigge, is your team djurgardens?
    Indeed it is. Third generation fan and season ticket holder for a dozen years or so (but not anymore).

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    Wait, thats the yankees of the SHL. Im picking Rogle, since wikipedia says Hampus Lindholm played there. Or Lulea bc of Lundestrom. Whichever one embodies mediocrity like Anaheim teams
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    2017: 8,035-6,518 (.552) ~ 8 WS
    2018: 6,226-5,522 (.530) ~ 7 WS
    2019: 3 WS


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    TCLVista Cruisers(2101-)2109, 2125
    WBCVenezuela(1925-1932,1937-)1925, 1928, 1930, 1937, 1949, 1955
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke_T View Post
    Wait, thats the yankees of the SHL. Im picking Rogle, since wikipedia says Hampus Lindholm played there. Or Lulea bc of Lundestrom. Whichever one embodies mediocrity like Anaheim teams
    It's only the Yankees of the SHL based on past merits and the cocksureness that comes with that and from representing the nation's first city. Other teams are more like the Yankees by buying success with bloated salary budgets. The SHL is weird that way, with teams in smaller cities having bigger budgets because they have more political backing in their little towns. Specifically by helping out teams to build and own their own arenas, whereas the arenas in Stockholm are terrible and generate less profit for the team.

    Luleå is probably more similar to Calgary, Edmonton, or Winnipeg. Rugged people in the grim north with a huge complex about big city folk from the south.

    Rögle could work. It's the lesser neighbor to Malmö (the L.A. of Sweden?), but they produce more talented players.

    But if you would get over here and watch a game you would fall in love with the pride of Stockholm.

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